{"id":33470,"date":"2023-09-14T18:40:00","date_gmt":"2023-09-14T16:40:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/clamart-citoyenne.fr\/?p=33470"},"modified":"2023-09-15T09:39:23","modified_gmt":"2023-09-15T07:39:23","slug":"la-spla-panorama-a-lage-du-numerique","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/clamart-citoyenne.fr\/?p=33470","title":{"rendered":"La SPLA Panorama \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e2ge du num\u00e9rique\u2026<\/strong>"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Le p\u00e8re No\u00ebl vient de passer : les documents que nous avions demand\u00e9s en d\u00e9cembre 2020 \u00e0 la SPLA Panorama (d\u00e9sormais Vall\u00e9e Sud Am\u00e9nagement) sont arriv\u00e9s !…<\/p>\n\n\n

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En l\u2019absence de r\u00e9ponse de la mairie et de la SPLA nous avons d\u00fb saisir la CADA (Commission d\u2019acc\u00e8s aux documents administratifs). Celle-ci nous a donn\u00e9 raison sur la quasi int\u00e9gralit\u00e9 de notre demande et enjoint \u00e0 la mairie et \u00e0 la SPLA de nous communiquer les documents demand\u00e9s.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

En l\u2019absence de r\u00e9action de la mairie et de la SPLA nous les avons \u00e0 nouveau relanc\u00e9s et obtenu de leur part une r\u00e9ponse positive pour nous communiquer les documents, moyennant le paiement de 216,35\u20ac pour frais de reproduction. La SPLA affirmant qu\u2019elle n\u2019en disposait pas de version num\u00e9rique<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nous avons pay\u00e9 la somme demand\u00e9e et proc\u00e9dons actuellement \u00e0 leur exploitation (en v\u00e9rifiant bien s\u00fbr qu\u2019ils correspondent \u00e0 notre demande\u2026).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Les premiers \u00e9l\u00e9ments trouv\u00e9s dans ces documents, dont la qualit\u00e9 laisse \u00e0 d\u00e9sirer (pages en double, pages manquantes, en d\u00e9sordre\u2026), montrent d\u2019ores et d\u00e9j\u00e0 que certains d\u2019entre eux \u00e9taient d\u00e9j\u00e0 disponibles sous forme num\u00e9rique dans le dossier d\u2019enqu\u00eate publique. Dommage que la SPLA n\u2019ait apparemment pas jug\u00e9 bon de les archiver. D’autres documents, pourtant importants pour les Clamartois, semblent \u00eatre absents notamment les informations relatives au respect des engagements pris par la SPLA sur la pollution des sols et les relev\u00e9s des pollutions r\u00e9siduelles apr\u00e8s d\u00e9molition des b\u00e2timents.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Plus globalement, le fait que des frais de reproduction sur papier nous soient factur\u00e9s donne un aper\u00e7u des m\u00e9thodes de travail de la SPLA qui semble ne travailler que sur documents \u00ab\u00a0papier\u00a0\u00bb et ne pas disposer de moyens de num\u00e9risation. En d\u00e9pit de tous ses beaux discours modernistes, notre municipalit\u00e9 et ses \u00ab filiales \u00bb seraient encore \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e2ge de pierre !<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nous leur sugg\u00e9rons donc d\u2019utiliser les 216,35\u20ac que nous leur avons vers\u00e9s pour au moins s\u2019acheter un scanner digne de ce nom (et au passage \u00e9viter de couper des arbres pour en faire des photocopies).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Quoiqu\u2019il en soit nous les recontacterons bient\u00f4t (\u00e0 suivre\u2026).<\/p>\n\n

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